• punchdrunk posted a new activity comment 3 years, 6 months ago

    Gay people and people with disabilities are not inherently dangerous, are not moved by internal pressures to harm others.
    Describing a kidfucker as a pedophile is not the same thing. It’s a semantic quibble.

  • punchdrunk posted a new activity comment 3 years, 6 months ago

    All I’m saying is, the vernacular changes. Good or bad, the horse is out of the barn. The same way ‘misogynist’ has come to mean the same thing as ‘chauvinist’ in my lifetime.
    It’s a losing battle, the ship has sailed, can’t put the genie back in the bottle and all that. People keep trying to change language, but prescriptive changes almost…[Read more]

  • punchdrunk posted a new activity comment 3 years, 6 months ago

    Kidfucker apologist = giant piece of shit.
    Works for me.

  • punchdrunk posted a new activity comment 3 years, 6 months ago

    Non-pedantically, in the way that people use language, ‘kidfucker’ and ‘pedophile’ are entirely interchangeable.
    Don’t know why you’re tired of using a live language. (I hope it’s not just the word ‘pedophile’ you’re hung up on – that would be weird)
    http://www.cracked.com/blog/the-5-weirdest-ways-words-have-changed-meanings/

    • A pedophile is someone with a mental illness who needs treatment. A child rapist is a child rapist regardless of their mental health. A pedophile may or may not be a child rapist, a child rapist may or may not be a pedophile. It’s not pedantic to separate the two and to use language accurately. Using pedophile when you mean child rapist…[Read more]

      • All I’m saying is, the vernacular changes. Good or bad, the horse is out of the barn. The same way ‘misogynist’ has come to mean the same thing as ‘chauvinist’ in my lifetime.
        It’s a losing battle, the ship has sailed, can’t put the genie back in the bottle and all that. People keep trying to change language, but prescriptive changes almost…[Read more]

    • Also, I can’t count the number of times I’ve heard people defend using words like ‘fag’ or ‘retard’ because “this how how people use language”. It’s not okay.

      • Gay people and people with disabilities are not inherently dangerous, are not moved by internal pressures to harm others.
        Describing a kidfucker as a pedophile is not the same thing. It’s a semantic quibble.

  • punchdrunk posted a new activity comment 3 years, 6 months ago

    There’s also the opposite, the ‘nocebo’ effect, which has actually been responsible for the deaths of otherwise healthy people:

    http://io9.com/how-the-nocebo-effect-can-trick-us-into-actually-dyin-1681746203

    How our perceptions influence our biology is fascinating and strange as fiction.

  • punchdrunk posted a new activity comment 3 years, 7 months ago

    Not just you. I’ve been getting the load/verification screen or ‘website timed out trying to connect’ message.
    Everything seems smoothed out now, though.

  • punchdrunk posted a new activity comment 3 years, 11 months ago

    It looks like Boomer requires independent witnesses in the room during the assault to accept the claim. That seems to be the evidentiary bar here. He needs extraordinary evidence, evidence that almost never exists, because all those witnesses and all the prior bad behavior and all the women who have come forward, now and in the past, just aren’t…[Read more]

    • @punchdrunk, You’re battling a strawman. There’ve been many sexual assault cases involving the inability to consent that’ve resulted in conviction absent witnesses in the room. Although I don’t think our criminal justice system is perfect (see below), I have to assume a jury probably gets things right most of the time. Are there testimonies and…[Read more]

      • This in not a court of law, this is the court of public opinion.

        In the court of public opinion there is no presumption of innocence.

        This is the strawman you keep whacking at, stop it.

  • punchdrunk posted a new activity comment 3 years, 11 months ago

    Also, you can stuff your ‘deepest sympathies’, since you would have been right there defending the people who raped me. My word about what happened wouldn’t have been good enough. My telling my story would have violated the people who raped me.
    Get bent and keep your pity to yourself.

  • punchdrunk posted a new activity comment 3 years, 11 months ago

    There’s no right to speak at conventions. There’s not right to have powerful people defend you. There’s no right to have your actions swept under the rug by a community. There’s no right to saving public face. There’s no right to selling books or speaking in front of audiences or being invited to parties or having your work promoted.
    None of…[Read more]

  • punchdrunk posted a new activity comment 3 years, 11 months ago

    No shit he knew. I mean, duh.
    It’s so disingenuous.
    What Shermer did is so common, so typical, his behavior for years so well-known… you have to be either incredibly naive or willfully ignorant to deny, dismiss, or doubt that a sexual assault occurred.

    It shouldn’t come as a surprise, especially in light of the Rice video. People were…[Read more]

  • punchdrunk posted a new activity comment 3 years, 11 months ago

    See, to my mind, it is far more likely that Shermer raped Smith than that Smith is fabricating or mistaken.
    Far, far, far more likely, from all I know about how sexual assault happens, how often it happens, and how unlikely false accusations are.
    Most rapists are never charged or convicted, so that means next to nothing to my calculations.
    Add…[Read more]

    • I didn’t claim Ms. Smith fabricated her story. It’s certainly possible that she honestly believes she was too drunk to consent AND that Shermer honestly believes she was not. In this specific instance how do you prove who is right?

      It sounds as though you are saying you are a sexual assault victim. If so, you have my deepest sympathies. This…[Read more]

    • Oh, please. He knew. He fucking knew.

    • No shit he knew. I mean, duh.
      It’s so disingenuous.
      What Shermer did is so common, so typical, his behavior for years so well-known… you have to be either incredibly naive or willfully ignorant to deny, dismiss, or doubt that a sexual assault occurred.

      It shouldn’t come as a surprise, especially in light of the Rice video. People were…[Read more]

    • @marilove, I know how someone who can see so clearly into the mind of another can win $1 million dollars, easy-peasy.

      This attitude is the reason I so strongly argue the innocent-until-proven-guilty point. Neither the writer of this blog post nor anyone commenting on it knows for sure what happened that night. Anyone who claims otherwise is…[Read more]

    • @punchdrunk, I’ll be the first to agree with anyone who says our criminal justice system sucks, but I believe in the principles on which it is supposed to operate.

      So what’s your solution? Do we modify due process protections for the accused? How do we enhance the rights of those who claim to be victims without taking away from the rights of…[Read more]

    • There’s no right to speak at conventions. There’s not right to have powerful people defend you. There’s no right to have your actions swept under the rug by a community. There’s no right to saving public face. There’s no right to selling books or speaking in front of audiences or being invited to parties or having your work promoted.
      None of…[Read more]

    • Also, you can stuff your ‘deepest sympathies’, since you would have been right there defending the people who raped me. My word about what happened wouldn’t have been good enough. My telling my story would have violated the people who raped me.
      Get bent and keep your pity to yourself.

    • @punchdrunk, my entire line of argument revolves around the fact that Shermer has been accused with a criminal act, and that I believe if you’re gonna accuse someone of criminality you are morally bound to follow some rules to be sure you’re right. “Rights” in that regard refer to the rights of the accused in a criminal matter, which seem like a…[Read more]

    • “It makes me profoundly sad to think you may truly believe that. I would ask sincerely that you try not to confuse defending a principle with defending criminals.”

      “me me me, I I I!” How fucking self-involved do you have to be to seriously tell a VICTIM that her not wanting your bullshit sympathy makes YOU sad? You are making this about YOU…[Read more]

    • Seriously this just pisses me the fuck off. “Oh, I am so sad that a victim doesn’t appreciate my empty sympathy. Poor me. I am so abused. Poor, poor, poor me. 🙁 🙁 :(”

      Fuck off, dude.

    • @marilove, comprehend much? I didn’t say I was sad she didn’t accept my sympathy, I said I was sad she believed I would stand up for a criminal.

      If you’re gonna speak for someone at least pay attention.

  • punchdrunk posted a new activity comment 3 years, 11 months ago

    Regardless of whether Smith’s drinking was voluntary, if she was too drunk to consent, it was rape.
    She seems to be under the impression that Shermer overserved her deliberately to set her up to be raped.
    It’s not ‘sexual tactics’, it’s sexual predation.

    • I don’t disagree with the description of Shermer’s behavior as predatory. That’s part of the reason I deplore it. I also deplore taking advantage of a person’s emotional vulnerability, say following the breakup of a relationship, as a means to initiate a sexual encounter. But is it a crime?

      Ms. Smith said:

      “Mr. Shermer coerced me into a…[Read more]

      • See, to my mind, it is far more likely that Shermer raped Smith than that Smith is fabricating or mistaken.
        Far, far, far more likely, from all I know about how sexual assault happens, how often it happens, and how unlikely false accusations are.
        Most rapists are never charged or convicted, so that means next to nothing to my calculations.
        Add…[Read more]

        • I didn’t claim Ms. Smith fabricated her story. It’s certainly possible that she honestly believes she was too drunk to consent AND that Shermer honestly believes she was not. In this specific instance how do you prove who is right?

          It sounds as though you are saying you are a sexual assault victim. If so, you have my deepest sympathies. This…[Read more]

        • Oh, please. He knew. He fucking knew.

        • No shit he knew. I mean, duh.
          It’s so disingenuous.
          What Shermer did is so common, so typical, his behavior for years so well-known… you have to be either incredibly naive or willfully ignorant to deny, dismiss, or doubt that a sexual assault occurred.

          It shouldn’t come as a surprise, especially in light of the Rice video. People were…[Read more]

        • @marilove, I know how someone who can see so clearly into the mind of another can win $1 million dollars, easy-peasy.

          This attitude is the reason I so strongly argue the innocent-until-proven-guilty point. Neither the writer of this blog post nor anyone commenting on it knows for sure what happened that night. Anyone who claims otherwise is…[Read more]

        • @punchdrunk, I’ll be the first to agree with anyone who says our criminal justice system sucks, but I believe in the principles on which it is supposed to operate.

          So what’s your solution? Do we modify due process protections for the accused? How do we enhance the rights of those who claim to be victims without taking away from the rights of…[Read more]

        • There’s no right to speak at conventions. There’s not right to have powerful people defend you. There’s no right to have your actions swept under the rug by a community. There’s no right to saving public face. There’s no right to selling books or speaking in front of audiences or being invited to parties or having your work promoted.
          None of…[Read more]

        • Also, you can stuff your ‘deepest sympathies’, since you would have been right there defending the people who raped me. My word about what happened wouldn’t have been good enough. My telling my story would have violated the people who raped me.
          Get bent and keep your pity to yourself.

        • @punchdrunk, my entire line of argument revolves around the fact that Shermer has been accused with a criminal act, and that I believe if you’re gonna accuse someone of criminality you are morally bound to follow some rules to be sure you’re right. “Rights” in that regard refer to the rights of the accused in a criminal matter, which seem like a…[Read more]

        • “It makes me profoundly sad to think you may truly believe that. I would ask sincerely that you try not to confuse defending a principle with defending criminals.”

          “me me me, I I I!” How fucking self-involved do you have to be to seriously tell a VICTIM that her not wanting your bullshit sympathy makes YOU sad? You are making this about YOU…[Read more]

        • Seriously this just pisses me the fuck off. “Oh, I am so sad that a victim doesn’t appreciate my empty sympathy. Poor me. I am so abused. Poor, poor, poor me. 🙁 🙁 :(”

          Fuck off, dude.

        • @marilove, comprehend much? I didn’t say I was sad she didn’t accept my sympathy, I said I was sad she believed I would stand up for a criminal.

          If you’re gonna speak for someone at least pay attention.

  • punchdrunk posted a new activity comment 4 years ago

    Also, agreements are fine, but things change, people change, and your partner is not a prostitute.

  • punchdrunk posted a new activity comment 4 years ago

    Sex is something that two people do together. If your relationship can survive coerced sex, then that’s really your business, but I don’t think sex that one partner enjoys and another distastefully tolerates is any better for the relationship than going without. They both look painful and toxic to me. And I don’t see how brow-beating and guilting…[Read more]

    • Also, agreements are fine, but things change, people change, and your partner is not a prostitute.

    • amm1 replied 4 years ago

      I can’t imagine wanting to “have sex” with someone who didn’t want it, too. (I put “having sex” in quotes because I distinguish between “having sex” and “making love.”) For me to even feel like it, I have to feel a sense of trust and intimacy and connection that is incompatible with coercion.

      My reaction upon first hearing this story was:…[Read more]

    • “Sex is something that two people do together” – which is exactly why the cookie analogy is horrible. It ties right back into the myth Olivia wants to attack, which is that sex is something women might enjoy incidentally, but is really something they do as a favor for their male partners – like baking cookies for your SO to eat, because maybe you…[Read more]

      • You seem to be arguing from a place that assumes the author of this article and everyone responding are only speaking from the perspective of women being coerced, and from a place where only women can use sex as a “bargaining tool”.

        Do you know why I was so hurt when my fwb denied me sex? Because he was using it to wield power over me. “Be…[Read more]

        • marilove – In the article, Olivia repeatedly talks about the trope that men want sex and women withhold as a power play, men will get it elsewhere if they don’t get it at home, advice columns routinely talk about ‘always women’ withholding sex, and “underlying all of these myths is the assumption that sex is about ownership rather than about a…[Read more]

  • punchdrunk posted a new activity comment 4 years ago

    We’re not your fucking students, you’re not addressing an audience, so please cut it out with the ‘this commenter’ and ‘the commenter’, as if you’re narrating some documentary inside your own head.
    Please disabuse yourself of the notion that you’re in a position to lecture from on high, rather than engaging in a conversation.
    And know that…[Read more]

    • “And know that defending a fraud is so far removed from skepticism that it’s laughable that you would presume to instruct anyone.”

      Skepticism is a framework of epistemology. That is to say, a method by which to conclude what you know and don’t know. How one decides what to conclude about a given situation very much does fall under the u…[Read more]

    • You keep moving the goal posts and arguing in circles.

      If you want to keep listening to Dunning, fine, give him money. We’d rather not.

  • punchdrunk posted a new activity comment 4 years ago

    I think you’re right, and I think you could have waited a minute before deciding that you were the only one who had a problem with jokes about Solange assaulting Jay Z.
    I don’t think there’s any MRAing going on, either. You could slow your roll a little, though.

  • punchdrunk posted a new activity comment 4 years ago

    He’s saying deliberately inflammatory things, and then acting as if an angry response is somehow proof of his own superiority.
    It looks like a bad attempt at some kind of *gotcha*!

  • punchdrunk posted a new activity comment 4 years ago

    I can’t wait for the Magical Negro childcare plan and the Chinese Secret line of cleaning products.

  • punchdrunk posted a new activity comment 4 years ago

    Noble Savage Foods…..
    …could…why…what…
    http://37.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lyrv9mYxn01qbyhcjo1_r1_500.gif

    • Punchdrunk,

      From what I understand the “Paleo diet” isn’t even based on what the typical cave man actually ate.

      Debunking the paleo diet: Christina Warinner at TEDxOU

      • I can’t wait for the Magical Negro childcare plan and the Chinese Secret line of cleaning products.

      • Another great source for real science on “paleo” claims (and also related evo-psych claims) is Marlene Zuk’s book Paleofantasy. It’s excellently written, clearly argued, and has a wealth of biological information, and I think Dr. Zuk’s sense of humor is great. I can’t recommend it highly enough.

        • Biogeo,

          Thanks! Maybe I’ll check it out when I have the time.

          • We read Paleofantasy last year in the Boston Skeptics/Skepchick Book Club, and Mary wrote one of her typically fascinating and detailed reviews of it. Highly recommended.

      • Interesting stuff, though I would caution that modern “paleo” and “primal” diets aren’t simply based in eating everything cavemen ate. That’s just marketing. The actual diets tend to stress large amounts of non-starchy vegetables along with “naturally” raised meats such as grassfed beef. They are pretty similar to the Adkins diet, South Beach,…[Read more]

        • But aren’t cattle, by virtue of selective breeding, *gasp* genetically modified, relative to aurochs? 😉

          The problem is that traditional dietary advice fails a lot of people (largely because, well, traditional dietary advice is on shaky ground itself, and most junk food has been rejiggered to be low-fat, high-carb, and, where possible,…[Read more]

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